September 2017
Dates For Your Diary

Monthly meetings are held on the second Monday of every month 7.30 pm for 7.45 pm at Liddington Village Hall, opposite the church

October 9 - AGM
Lee Lowry - Air Vests
(Discount on the night)
November 13
Paul Wood from Swindon Wheelers Cycling Club
December 11
Norman Parry - Both Sides of the Himalayas by Motorbike
January 19 2018
Annual Dinner

Monthly Ride-Outs
Remember that monthly Bike Ride-Outs take place on the 3rd Saturday of every month. 
Do you have a topic you would like discussed, or know of an interesting speaker?  Please contact Monica!

Congratulations to the following members who have passed their Advanced Tests recently:
Richard Eamer - Silver - Tutor Mark Sealey
Bike re-test: Tony King - Gold.
Car re test - Mike Newman - Gold

New Associates:
Please welcome the following to the Group:

Alex Benton (Bike)
Mark Wilson (Bike)
Matthew Berry (Bike)
Neil Lloyd (Bike)
James Wymer (Car)
Dave Cox (Car)
New Merchandise
Don’t forget we have polo shirts and hi -Viz jackets with the new logo.  These can be viewed and ordered at the AGM and monthly meetings.
There is a small selection of books available -notably some out of print  Not The Blue Book and The Assessment of Advanced Motorcycling both by Dave Jones
For more information visit the Merchandise page of our web site at
We are always looking for more articles, ideas and news for the newsletter. Have you been somewhere interesting recently that would make a good story? If you attend any group events then take a camera and send us your pictures!

Please forward all contributions to
We're now on
Find us on facebook
September Notices
This is fast approaching, October 9th We would encourage members to attend the AGM to vote in new committee members, and, as importantly, to hear feedback about the Accreditation Consultation process, and RoSPA in general.
Chairman and Committee 
We are still seeking new Committee members and particularly Chairman, Secretary and Speaker Coordinator.  If you wish to help develop the Group please let Mary know at
September Meeting Report
Members present at the September meeting were treated to an interesting and engaging dialogue with Mark Kendrick on the subject of Commentary Driving. Mark will be known to many as the producer of an excellent series of Advanced Driving DVDs, one of
which covers Commentary Driving specifically. He has a long history in the field, dating back some 20 years to the time when he took (and paid for) a Police Advanced Driving course, and was subsequently engaged as a civilian instructor for the West Mercia Force. Since then he formed his own company, Bespoke Driver Training, which provides specialist training to individuals and organisations around the world, including esoteric courses such as VIP protection and armoured vehicle driving. They also welcome enquiries from individual enthusiasts.

Mark started his session with 2 questions about commentary:

- What is it?
- What do we want to learn?

Between Mark and the audience we worked out what commentary is for – it can be a useful
assessment tool, telling your passenger (maybe an examiner) what you see, what you anticipate will happen, and your plan for dealing with it. It can also be a good goal for self-development, reinforcing the simple observation of hazards or features with those consequences as yet unseen, but expected.

At all times, Mark encouraged (indeed demanded) participation from the audience. Bob suggested commentary was a useful way of regaining concentration after a lapse, and Mark agreed he does this too. And for those shrinking violets amongst us, this commentary can be silent, for the driver / rider only.

We moved on to the structure of a commentary, and Gary mentioned his – far, near, and interior (not forgetting rear). Mark suggested the structure might vary according the purpose of the commentary and suggested some types – surveillance, pursuit, instructional or test (not riders).  Mark suggested a commentary should have a goal. On test, this is to show off! Vocalising features such as the use of cross-views, thinking beyond a roundabout to what might lie beyond, looking for anticipated hazards and so on.
Mark has also served time as an examiner, and was asked what he expects from an associate? There are many styles, but primarily, any commentary must be “future focussed”, not about what has happened, or is happening, but what is going to happen next. What lies in the distance is the most important, diminishing in importance as it gets nearer (because it should already have been observed and planned for). He’s not keen on “shopping lists”, but likes some supporting detail – e.g. a sign for a junction on the right, but ... “reinforced by a yellow background, may be an accident black spot”. He’s also not keen on book quotes, which he says only serve to demonstrate a good memory. This can all be summed up in the old phrase – “what can be seen, what cannot be seen, and what can be expected to happen”, or OAP (observation, anticipation and planning).
Mark added an interesting adjunct to this, as part of an aside. In addition to verbalising your plan, consider a backup plan if anything goes wrong. Mark’s example involved driving through a hedge, but maybe you don’t need to go that far!

Mark then showed us some clips of experts delivering commentary and invited us to compare them. They were all very instructive, including Mark’s own, illustrating different techniques and objectives. Some were explanatory, others more theoretical, taking a feature of the road (white paint) and expanding it to provide an insight into the reasons for the paint being there, and thence to the anticipated additional hazards that might be present but unseen.
Interwoven through this section was advice on how to prepare and deliver a commentary. You can start with road signs, and build from there. Think out loud. Consider preparing phrases. Sometimes it’s easy to get tongue-tied and have difficulty remembering the words. Practised phrases make this easier. In the case of the contingency plan mentioned above, Mark has the words off pat – “Just in case (X happens), I’m (going to do Y)”. That way, familiarity helps the words trip off the tongue.

As Bob said in his remarks thanking Mark “I never knew commentary could be so interesting”. Hear, hear! Thank you, Mark.

Nick Carrington
 Mark Kendrick from Bespoke Driver Training has offered a 21% discount on his DVDs up to 31 Oct  - the discount voucher code is posted on the Forum so please head there to obtain the exclusive offer to RoADAR WIltshire members.
Emergency Services Show
RoDAR Wiltshire had a successful day at the Emergency Services Show on Sunday3.  Despite the bad weather, it was a very damp day, there were plenty of people supporting the Emergency Services and we had a steady stream of interested people at our tent; even signing a few up on the day.  We were well placed in the centre of the show.  Thanks to all who supported us on the day.
Head Office - Accreditation Consultation
Winston Castle kindly represented the Group at one of the consultation meetings at RoSPA HQ in Birmingham.  There has been some compromise during the consultation regarding the accreditation process and whilst there were still 2 issues about which the Committee were uncomfortable it is felt we will be able to work round these issues and will submit an application for the accreditation process when called.  RoSPA still have some work to do on some of the wording and we will adjust our constitution where the RoSPA suggested amendments improve our document.  We expect to be successful at the accreditation so  should continue to be RoSPA Advanced Drivers and Riders  Wiltshire.
First Aid course  - Please consider this it is an important skill to have and with a little knowledge you really can save a life.  The cut off date for numbers is 1 Dec 2017 so please pass your application to attend to Monica Graham.
Saturday 13th January 2018. A course has been booked for up to 24 people.

At the end of this course you will obtain an ITC First Aid Qualification which is recognised nationally, certificate, paperwork and updated manual.  The group is subsidising this and requires a non-refundable booking and deposit of £25 per person by December 1st. This is an excellent one day course.  We have used this company before and it is aimed specifically at car and bike incidents, learning the correct way to take helmet off if necessary.
The cost also includes also refreshments throughout the day. Coffee / tea breaks and lunch.

Membership fees - confused? 
This was discussed recently and a clarification is needed. There are two fees to pay:

1. Wiltshire RoADAR (the Group) - an annual fee is paid to the Group in October. This pays for hall hire, speakers and promotional material. This fee does not cover test fees or RoADAR/RoSPA membership fees.

2. RoADAR (HQ) - a fee is only paid to RoADAR (HQ) in the first instance for the test fee. After that, it is up to the individual if they wish to pay an annual membership fee to RoADAR - this is in addition to paying an annual membership fee to Wiltshire RoADAR. If a member does pay an annual fee to RoADAR, then assuming one does so for three years continuously, there will not be a further test fee to be paid for the three yearly retest.  The fee to RoSPA is paid by the indiviudual at the time of booking their test. Annual renewal to RoADAR is around the time of your test. 
A reminder for all Members there is a Forum on the Website which can be used for any purpose but particularly coordinating events, hints, tips and general conversation.  It is easy to register on the website so please do log on and chat away.
Test results 
Reminder to let the Membership Secretary, and your tutor, know when you have taken your Advanced Driving/Riding Test and result. This is so our database is kept up to date; there is no need or pressure at all to have the result published on the website or in this newsletter if you wish to keep your result confidential.

Committee minutes 
It was discussed at the most recent committee meeting that minutes should be made available to any member who wishes to see them. We have no objections to this, of course, but would prefer not to publish them on our website. If you are interested in reading the minutes, then please send a mail to the Group Secretary whom will promptly forward them onto you. Better still, why not pop along to a committe meeting to see them developed first hand! 
Skill Share

We will be running the final SkillShare fo the year  for both cars and bikes on 7 October  at the Divine Café in Cherhill at 1000 – 1200 (details on the website if you need them).  Please use this as a way of encouraging new members to come and meet us and have a driving /riding assessment. 
All Tutors please make yourself available where you can to help us promote the Group.  Cars are coordinated by Nick Carrington and Mark Sealey for Bikes.
Membership Secretary: Mrs. Monica Graham, 114 Marines Drive, Faringdon, Oxon. SN7 7UG.Tel: 01367 242377
Hon Secretary: Mrs. Mary Southgate
To make sure that you receive our messages we recommend that you add, and to your address list.